Bonjour et bonsoir,
I've been hanging out with this friend of mine, who is really relegious and homophobic. (Nice way to start a post, I know, I'm great at this).We were talking about homosexuality and I brought up the subject of the ancient Greeks having homosexual relationships with each other. Now, us Greeks take way too much pride in our ancestors and the types of people like my friend refuse to accept this well known fact, because it's supposed to be degrading.
So, I told her that I'd bring her Plato's Symposium, that has a lot of parts that prove my statement. I own a copy, that contains the ancient prototype and a translation. I marked the pages and underlined the sentences, I gave it to her and after a couple of days, I asked her if she has read it.
She said "No, I refuse to believe it". Not in a "I know it's true but I refure to believe it" way, but in a "I refuse to believe you brought me this book fool of lies" way. She then asked me how did I know that the translation was correct and that it didn't alter things. I then told her that the Symposium was also translated by monks in the Byzantine empire, that probably none of them wanted to admit that our marvelous ancestors did those horrible horrible things. In short, none of those monks would want to alter the prototype in that way.
But I understand that this argument is not that strong.
We stopped talking about this at that point. But of course I kept thinking.
Plato's Symposium is a script that generally describes some peoples' opinions of what is love. It talks about homosexuality, that, even if it was unnatural, it can happen. Completely philosophical, but nothing that is impossible to happen by the laws of nature, like, for example,*ahem* a man walking in the water and a virgin woman giving birth.
So that's Plato's Symposium. A script describing something that can naturally happen.
But what about the Holy Bible? It wasnt written in a specific year of location. Let's say the Old Testament was written around 1400 BC and the New Testament around 50 AD. Plato's Symposium was written around 416 BC (sources for those below).
The Holy Bible contains incidents that are impossible to happen if one follows the laws of nature that are called "miracles" and also some dreams that are called " visions". From an impartial perspective, they are unnatural incidents (walking in the water, splitting water in half, vigrin giving birth while impregnated by rays of sunshine etc etc) and dreams.
She chooses to stricly believe in scripts that talk about unnatural incidents and dreams people had more than 2000 years ago and she refuses to believe a script that describes a philosophical conversation that happened around the same years as the first book. If she wants to characterise Symposium unreliable because of the years that have passed, then she should also rethink about believing in the Holy Bible.
Thank you for reading this rant,
Vaya
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symposium_%28Plato%29#Historical_context
http://www.biblica.com/en-us/bible/bible-faqs/when-was-the-bible-written/
Vaya
Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symposium_%28Plato%29#Historical_context
http://www.biblica.com/en-us/bible/bible-faqs/when-was-the-bible-written/
Very well.
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